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Maya civilization's collapse linked to climate change: study
« on: November 09, 2012, 03:58:55 pm »
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Maya civilization's collapse linked to climate change: study
By Deborah Zabarenko | Reuters – 18 mins ago.. .


WASHINGTON (Reuters) - For a clue to the possible impact of climate change on modern society, a study suggests a look back at the end of classic Maya civilization, which disintegrated into famine, war and collapse as a long-term wet weather pattern shifted to drought.
 
An international team of researchers compiled a detailed climate record that tracks 2,000 years of wet and dry weather in present-day Belize, where Maya cities developed from the year 300 to 1000. Using data locked in stalagmites - mineral deposits left by dripping water in caves - and the rich archeological evidence created by the Maya, the team reported its findings in the journal Science on Thursday.
 
Unlike the current global warming trend, which is spurred by human activities including the emission of atmosphere-heating greenhouse gases, the change in the Central American climate during the collapse of the Maya civilization was due to a massive, undulating, natural weather pattern.
 
This weather pattern alternately brought extreme moisture, which fostered the growth of the Maya civilization, and periods of dry weather and drought on a centuries-long scale, said the study's lead author, Douglas Kennett, an anthropologist at Penn State University.
 
The wet periods meant expanded agriculture and growing population as Maya centers of civilization grew, Kennett said in a telephone interview. It also reinforced the power of the kings of these centers, who claimed credit for the rains that brought prosperity and performed public blood sacrifices meant to keep the weather favorable to farming.
 
ANALOGIES TO MODERN CIVILIZATION
 
When the rainy period gradually changed to dry weather around the year 660, Kennett said, the kings' power and influence collapsed, and correlated closely with an increase in wars over scarce resources.
 
"You can imagine the Maya getting lured into this trap," he said. "The idea is that they keep the rains coming, they keep everything together, and that's great when you're in a really good period ... but when things start going badly, and (the kings are) doing the ceremonies and nothing's happening, then people are going to start questioning whether or not they should really be in charge."
 
The political collapse of the Maya kings came around the year 900, when prolonged drought undermined their authority. But Maya populations remained for another century or so, when a severe drought lasting from the years 1000 to 1100 forced Maya to leave what used to be their biggest centers of population.
 
Even during the Maya heyday, humans had an impact on their environment, Kennett said, mostly by farming more land, which in turn caused greater erosion. During the dry periods, the Maya responded with intensified agriculture.
 
When the climate in the area shifted toward drought, in a long-running pattern called the intertropical conversion zone, it exacerbated human impact on environment, Kennett said.
 
"There are some analogies to this in the modern context that we need to worry about" in Africa or Europe, he said.
 
If there are changes in climate that undermine agricultural systems in some areas, it could create widespread famine, social instability and warfare that then draw in other populations, he said -- just as it may have happened in Maya civilization.
http://news.yahoo.com/maya-civilizations-collapse-linked-climate-change-study-154052574.html

I don't know that there's anything new here...

It is, however, human nature to expand to the limits of the enviroment - and then suffer and die off during bad climate periods.

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Re: Maya civilization's collapse linked to climate change: study
« Reply #1 on: November 09, 2012, 07:08:21 pm »
Oi. 


Ok, this is focused specifically on the SOUTHERN Mayan, and the classical era.  Tikal was abandoned in 900, but "the Mayan Kings" did not collapse.  Just the southern portion, which did hold large populations through the drough years until 1100.  This is relatively easily tracked as you see the decline in the cities.  Building stops, and eventual decline. 

Did the climate lead to the breakdown of the city state alliance in the south that led to increased warfare and eventual collapse?  Maybe.  There's also little to no evidence of this runaway agriculture that I know of.  The mayan system was actually quite drought tolerant. 


But the big "MYSTERY" that you always hear about is what the hell happened to the NORTHERN Mayan territories that were THRIVING through 1200.  Thats well past this awful drought.  And, there's no sign of decline, the sites are just abandoned, no decline.  That's the mystery. 

It also coincides with the Itza civilization abandoning Chichen Itza (they had claimed it from the Toltecs) for no known reason and settling Mayapan instead. 

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Re: Maya civilization's collapse linked to climate change: study
« Reply #2 on: November 09, 2012, 07:12:53 pm »
I've heard hints that a lot of it had to do with the Quetzalcoatl religion arising, and civil war coming of its surpression. [shrugs]  Didn't I post an article about that?

 

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