Astronomers discover new dwarf planet 'Ammonite'

[Buster's Uncle]

Astronomers discover new dwarf planet 'Ammonite' — and it could upend the existence of Planet Nine
Elana Spivack
Live Science
Thu, July 24, 2025 at 4:09 PM EDT



The orbit of the newly detected dwarf planet ‘Ammonite’ (2023 KQ14, shown in red) compared to the orbits of the other three known sednoids (in white). | Credit: NAOJ


Astronomers have discovered a possible new dwarf planet orbiting far beyond Pluto. First detected in March 2023 by Japan's Subaru Telescope in Hawaii, this object has been dubbed 2023 KQ14 and nicknamed Ammonite. Ammonite's appearance also puts a kink in what's known as the Planet Nine hypothesis, which suggests there may be an undiscovered ninth planet in our solar system.

Led by researchers in Japan, the team announced Ammonite's discovery in a paper published July 14 in the journal Nature Astronomy. The body gets its moniker from the fossil of a long-extinct cephalopod because it was identified as part of the survey project Formation of the Outer Solar System: An Icy Legacy, or FOSSIL.

Ammonite is classified as a sednoid, which is an object beyond Neptune — our solar system's outermost confirmed planet — with a peculiar orbit. It's now the fourth sednoid discovered. The term "sednoid" comes from the dwarf planet Sedna, which exists at our solar system's edge and was discovered in 2004.

When describing the orbits of celestial bodies, astronomers use astronomical units (AU). The distance between Earth and the sun is approximately 1 AU. Following an elliptical path, Sedna is about 76 AU from the sun at its nearest point (perihelion) and 900 AU at its farthest (aphelion). Ammonite, meanwhile, is between 66 and 252 AU from the sun at the closest and farthest points in its orbit.

The discovery of 2023 KQ14 detracts from the possibility that there could be a ninth planet for our solar system, according to the study authors. First proposed in 2016, the Planet Nine hypothesis suggests there may be a Neptune-size planet orbiting the sun about 20 to 30 times farther from the sun than Neptune is.

This planet would explain the eccentric orbits of smaller bodies in the Kuiper Belt, which is the vast expanse of icy rocks that encompasses the outer solar system. It's believed that the gravity of a much more massive body, like a planet, may be shepherding these smaller objects. However, the relationship between the newest sednoid's orbit and that of the other three known sednoids calls this hypothesis into question.

"The planet 9 hypothesis is based on the fact that the known Sednoids have their orbit cluster on one side of the solar system," study co-author Shiang-Yu Wang, a research fellow at the Institute of Astronomy and Astrophysics in Taiwan, told Live Science in an email.

Ammonite is unique among these sednoids because its orbit is on the opposite side — its furthest point from the sun is in the opposite direction from the other sednoids' furthest points. The fact that there is now a known object orbiting on this path decreases the possibility that a large planet could be out there, too.

"The fact that 2023 KQ14's current orbit does not align with those of the other three sednoids lowers the likelihood of the Planet Nine hypothesis," study co-author Yukun Huang, a project research fellow at the National Astronomical Observatory of Japan's Center for Computational Astrophysics, said in a press release. "It is possible that a planet once existed in the Solar System but was later ejected, causing the unusual orbits we see today."

Other astronomers also believe Ammonite throws a wrench in this hypothesis. "The trouble is the evidence from the alignment has never been scientifically convincing and hasn't really grown stronger, even over the last 10 years or so," David Jewitt, a professor of astronomy at the University of California, Los Angeles who was not involved in Ammonite's discovery, told Live Science.

"Ammonite does not align with these six other objects, so weakens the case for Planet Nine, or means it must be very remote and correspondingly difficult to detect," Christopher Impey, an astronomy professor at the University of Arizona who was not involved in the sednoid's discovery, told Live Science.

But Impey is confident that, if there really is a Planet Nine, the newly activated Vera C. Rubin Observatory in Chile will soon be able to confirm it. "If Planet Nine exists, it will almost certainly be found in that survey data within a few years," he said.

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[Geo]

Another headache for Mike Brown's Ninth Planet hypothesis...

[Buster's Uncle]

I'm not real fond of the ninth planet stuff, Pluto having deserved to be grandfathered in and all.

Tenth planet?  I guess it would be way cool if they found something huge out there...

[Geo]

If there's something outthere on the mass Brown&alligned allege, its going to be a slightly smaller icebag like Neptune or Uranus.
The highlight of the day would be an Earth-sized rocky planet. Formation models of how the Solar System came to be will have to be re-examined then.

On Pluto not being a planet anymore as decided by the IAU, that decision has historical precedent. Back in the early 19th century the newly discovered objects Ceres, Juno, Pallas, and Vesta were considered planets too.

[Buster's Uncle]

I believe none of those Victorian discoveries lasted ANYthing like 90 years before being demoted, which is a real difference.  I'll fight on the Pluto hill, not least for being bigger than all those you mentioned combined.  It IS, isn't it?

[Geo]

I believe none of those Victorian discoveries lasted ANYthing like 90 years before being demoted, which is a real difference.  I'll fight on the Pluto hill, not least for being bigger than all those you mentioned combined.  It IS, isn't it?

You have a point there (for 7 decades anyway). But Clyde Tombaugh's discovery was more of an accident. It just happened to be in a predicted position by an even earlier astronomist (Percival Lowell) who presumed a planet IX like Neptune and Uranus. If Lovell hadn't made that prediction, I doubt Pluto would've been discovered for another couple decades at least.
I think most of the people fighting the Pluto hill are a sort of patriots, defending what they perceive to be an American scientific hegemony in space.
And while Pluto might be a sliver bigger, there's at least one known more massive dwarf planet out there (Eris).

[Buster's Uncle]

I'm being a nerd who doesn't accept change easily, though there's regard for Tombaugh mixed in, none of it's conscious nationalism.

[Geo]

If you're interested in reading more about those early 19th century discoveries, I suggest this Wikipedia article.
It looks like the classification of those early-discovered 'planets' lasted about half a century.

[Buster's Uncle]

I can't get my back up about change way before my time...

[Geo]

I can't get my back up about change way before my time...

Pluto was found way before your time.
In fact, Pluto's moon, Charon, wasn't discovered before you discovered girrrrrls.

[Buster's Uncle]

Yeah, but Pluto's MINE -in a way some asteroids and/or trans-neptunians can never be- and how dare they take it away.

[Lorizael]

There are 5 planets: Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter, and Saturn

[Buster's Uncle]

I wanted to ask you if you had a gold nose, but that was Brahe, not Copernicus...

[Lorizael]

Every culture in history, for thousands of years, recognized that there were only 5 planets, until a British colonizer spotted a big weird ice ball out there and named it after his king.

[Buster's Uncle]

Wasn't that a George?