Politics 2021

[Buster's Uncle]

Biden is reportedly very serious about a massive relief bill.

It seems almost like he's been saving up most of his principals most of his career, just to get here - only unusual for a politician in not losing the plot over the decades...

[Buster's Uncle]

BTW, I spotted 10 lurkers -the three IPs I checked were American- in this thread at the same time late Tuesday morning.  I've been feeling twitchy about it since, less now that I haven't seen anything like or related that in the interim.  Just, I don't mind if some rando browsed and posted a link somewhere and decent people had a look - but, y'know, this country has a Nazi problem, and those jokers get up to some messed-up excrement...

[Unorthodox]

Oh, and also related -good segue, in fact- it ought to shock no one who's paying attention to what I say going back a few years that I'm a little miserable lately -been going on since George Floyd died in the Midwest at the hands of yankees and the General's statue in front of the Old Courthouse down here was punished- at all the talk about the Confederacy and treason related to that, like it was eighteen sixty-freakin'-five.

This is poking at a sore spot us pale SE people have - we are never allowed to live down something that passed out of living memory forever in my 80 year-old mother's childhood.  We are retarded inbred hillbillies who talk funny and I have experienced actual job discrimination/hostile working environment.  We're not allowed to object to any of the jokes, because THAT proves we're also [jerk, sphincter]s.  My actual boss actually said I had a chip on my shoulder to my face for objecting to oppressive bigotry in the workplace, and thought that was okay.

I'm not defending the Confederacy, a truly bad idea, and not that battle flag, a symbol slimed by racists from the beginning and 'til the end of time - but lumped in with all that I eternally get, and personally is how I DO take it when you take away that ugly statue that was there when I got here and I didn't want, and I am personally affronted when randos on the nets show their ignorance of that sad episode like so many, many of the victors writing history.

I reckon that saying we're the ones who can't let go of the civil war is one of them there stereotypes, and not true like that we are mighty strong and can beat your rude yankee butt.

I wasn't there.  It was like this when I showed up, and I have never displayed that battle flag, and have put in a lot of work in my life trying to get my head straight about various prejudices.  I take it personally, and I hate my life.

Ok...trying to comprehend what she said that gets your nickers in a twist if you're claiming to not defend the actual confederacy or the flag. 

Mom's specialty is Civil War era and I've picked up more than my fair share of abby-normal edumication on the topic as a result.  I don't think it's quite as simplified as the general narrative.  I also think it's obnoxious to try to erase that history (and frankly should be illegal given some of the laws passed immediately after the civil war), but I'm not one to tell anyone how they should feel about it either.   

[Buster's Uncle]

My little brother is gay for that stuff, and so I could discuss, say, Braxton Bragg a little w/o embarrassing myself, despite the Silver War and related being of near-zero interest to me.

I never meant this was rational, just that when you've been beaten with a club enough, you get some PTSD that's triggered by clubs.

[Buster's Uncle]

Also, I'm kinda a major patriot for North Carolina, despite everything.

And calling it treason is, as a matter of actual fact, not super-correct; hell of a democracy, that I'm a citizen of by force, with bigotry/abuse towards me and my sainted mother adding insult to hypocrisy.  There's a conversation to be had about secessionism v. treason, compare and contrast - including the notion of whether a free society can morally compel membership and still call itself free, notwithstanding other sorts of freedom involved and irony and all that.  Just, y'all got too much blood on your hands to call me a killer like you're right and only I am wrong - and inbred.

Maybe this would be worth discussing more, what with way too many of us who feel that way also signing on to the hate politics, too, just like the Yankees think.  Were'nt all Yankees got up to Nazi Wednesday, as I just this morning had to snooze a cousin on Facebook for another month for posting pictures of ladies who were there.

[Geo]

Just wondering, but did your ancestors of 160 years ago already live in NC, BU?
I recon the answer is "yes", if I remember correctly the Waldesian stories you told me.

[Buster's Uncle]

You've known the answer and forgotten.  The Waldensians were Savoy/Piedmont -it was just Italy by then, or soon after- people who showed up here in 1895.  Definitely part of my cultural heritage -I showed you their rock buildings and one of the rock walls my own family built on our own land- but no blood relation.

Now of my own blood, Heinrick Weidner settled in Burke County in 1505.  He claimed to be a prince of Saxe-Colberg-Gotha who lost a succession dispute, making me a distant relative of Prince Albert in-a-can and thus most of the crowned heads of Europe since, if only we believed his claim.

So yes, my roots right here go back over 500 years, and this is MY Heimat (w/o all the latter-day German neonazi stuff).

[Buster's Uncle]

SO, you know, I could've disassociated myself from my regional baggage online, and the greater Civ community has not notably punished me for choosing otherwise, and good job on that, Yankees and godless furiners.

But that option does not exist for me IRL outside my native region if I have to open my mouth at the gas station - and that's with I've been told repeatedly by outsiders here that I have well less of a local accent than usual.  It's rigged against us, because we're slaver-racists, the worst kind after Hitler-megamurder-Nazis, and that makes it look awful for us to complain about ANYthing, and few ever do, even among ourselves.  And the prejudice takes forms gross and subtle, too many to ever list in full - but I might be in my trailer counting my sweet, sweet pile of renfair money w/ my slutty girlfriend right now if the prejudice didn't exist, eternally annoy with its myriad manifestations of rudeness, and do me actual measurable harm.  I was REALLY good at that.

[Buster's Uncle]

So, on trying to define fascism, does anyone know enough about Mussolini, the Roman Republic-Empire, and the story of the dying old man with quarrelling sons to talk about where Moose got the name?  Pray elucidate in as much useful detail as you can.

Please no cheating - I'll help if what you recall has gaps.

[Buster's Uncle]

Wait - as an ugly American, I'm fuzzy on most all fine detail of post-Roman Euro history, but I don't think Saxe-Colberg-Gotha existed as exactly that subdivision of Saxony anything like 500 years ago.  It would have just been Something Like That, and I regret the error.

-Ignore that and think about Mussolini, please.

[Buster's Uncle]

-Also, I wouldn't actually be counting large, large tip money on Friday - that's for Monday morning, at very latest.  Sin w/ slutty girlfriend definitely mostly for weekdays, though; Friday-Saturday are school nights, when you save your energy and go to bed on time if you can.

I'm okay with letting my inner pedant out to play when it's funny.

[Buster's Uncle]

Biden's economic relief plan is getting a lot more good reviews than otherwise among Liberals Screaming on Twitter - albeit, w/ much asking for even more.

I honestly wonder how it's all ever gonna get paid for and whether it will do enough good to make up for that, but I delight in any leftward swing from someone like Biden in this country in Decade Four of a slide towards fascism.

[Buster's Uncle]

Have I relayed the reports I'm seeing that Pig has told minions to never say Nixon around him again?

[Geo]

Have I relayed the reports I'm seeing that Pig has told minions to never say Nixon around him again?

Nope.


Saxe-Colberg? I assume you meant Coburg. And no, according to wiki the time you spoke of is a bit of a division between two lines of the Wettin's. Saxe-Coburg sprouted a couple centuries later from one of those two lines.
I had indeed forgotten the Savoy connection of the Waldensians.
I did remember the (ant)wall though. And of course the heritage grounds.

[Buster's Uncle]

I claim precision in no spelling pulled from memory unless otherwise noted.  Thank Jesus for auto-spellcheckers in everything these days, but they can keep up always with neither my vocabulary nor the words I make up and/or mangle some way on purpose.

Wasn't Saxe-Coburg-Gotha formed in Albert-in-a-can's lifetime or at least shortly before?