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William Shatner responds after Ted Cruz says Captain Kirk was likely a RepublicanEntertainment Weeklyby Jessica Derschowitz • @jessicasara • Posted July 26 2015 — 2:37 PM EDTStar Trek (TV Show - 1966) (Everett Collection)William Shatner has weighed in on Ted Cruz’s theory about his Star Trek character’s political leanings.In an interview with The New York Times Magazine, the Republican presidential candidate and Star Trek fan said he prefers Shatner’s Captain Kirk over Patrick Stewart’s Captain Picard.Cruz called Picard a “complete captain” and added, “If you look at Star Trek: The Next Generation, it basically split James T. Kirk into two people. Picard was Kirk’s rational side, and William Riker was his passionate side.”“The original Star Trek was grittier,” he said. “Kirk is working class; Picard is an aristocrat. Kirk is a passionate fighter for justice; Picard is a cerebral philosopher.”When asked where he thinks Kirk stands politically, Cruz replied, “I think it is quite likely that Kirk is a Republican and Picard is a Democrat.”Shatner responded to Cruz’s comments this week on Twitter, saying that Star Trek “wasn’t political.”“Star Trek wasn’t political. I’m not political; I can’t even vote in the US,” he wrote. “So to put a geocentric label on interstellar characters is silly.”
I agree -- "Renegades" featured a really good version of Chekov. Thank goodness. This production needed a "B plot" that could hold your attention. The production values were good, but the script was pretty weak. For example, you'd notice if your crewmate was a hologram, wouldn't you? Pretty quickly, right? I kept thinking "If I'd read the book, this might make more sense..." Except there's no book.
Low expectations going in are definitely helping me enjoy this - I expected to hate every second, so when they get something right, it's a delight. The acting is bad and it doesn't seem to be about anything interesting, but if you can get past Chekov's relative youth, they're getting him right. -I only expected a five-minute cameo in the setup, but this is a substantial part. This is something like the fellow he was supposed to grow up to be, and didn't get to in the movies. Level-headed and experienced, confident, capable - hasn't been tortured and/or screamed any yet.-He has a model of the real Enterprise in his office. None of that &^%$#@! movie crap, either. The callbacks to real Star Trek would be easy to blow by overdoing, but they're hitting it just right.Persons inexplicably enamored of the little [censored] have to give this turkey of a movie a watch - remember to go in knowing it sucks and everyone hates it, and you'll enjoy as of halfway through...
Mylochka says that I have an excellent memory for music. -I have a bunch of scores from old-standard musicals I was in nearly 40 years ago stored in my bean, though, like you say, getting very weak on the lyrics.Was in a production of JCS in 1987 as a disciple. I used to be able to do Mary's songs in a very credible soprano, before renfairs ruined my falsetto. I LOVE THAT SCORE. (The book doesn't display a great grasp of Jesus, but it's really a story about Lazarus, anyway.)
I'm not convinced anyone but me has read the whole live review I spent hours on...
Quote from: BUncle on September 08, 2015, 08:19:47 pmMylochka says that I have an excellent memory for music. -I have a bunch of scores from old-standard musicals I was in nearly 40 years ago stored in my bean, though, like you say, getting very weak on the lyrics.Was in a production of JCS in 1987 as a disciple. I used to be able to do Mary's songs in a very credible soprano, before renfairs ruined my falsetto. I LOVE THAT SCORE. (The book doesn't display a great grasp of Jesus, but it's really a story about Lazarus, anyway.)I think you mean Judas, since Lazarus wasn't even mentioned other than obliquely in a line during the King Herod scene, and not even by name.
QuoteWilliam Shatner responds after Ted Cruz says Captain Kirk was likely a RepublicanFWIW, at least Cruz is a Trek fan - he's engaging in wishful thinking, but Shatner's opinion isn't worth as much as that.Star Trek was incredibly political in the Swiftian mode, but I wouldn't expect either gentleman to know that.
William Shatner responds after Ted Cruz says Captain Kirk was likely a RepublicanFWIW, at least Cruz is a Trek fan - he's engaging in wishful thinking, but Shatner's opinion isn't worth as much as that.Star Trek was incredibly political in the Swiftian mode, but I wouldn't expect either gentleman to know that.
Star Trek was incredibly political in the Swiftian mode, but I wouldn't expect either gentleman to know that.
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I hate to agree with Ted Cruz on anything, but I could see Kirk as being the 23rd c version of a Republican. He's got to be pretty strong on defense and military spending, at least... And he does have the reputation of being a bit of a Herbert at times...Times change and perspectives change with them. Imagine how liberal today's Republicans would look to the conservatives of Andrew Jackson's days.But yeah, Shatner's wrong. Star Trek was pretty overtly political and would have been moreso if the censors would have allowed.Quote from: BUncle on September 08, 2015, 08:26:39 pmQuoteWilliam Shatner responds after Ted Cruz says Captain Kirk was likely a RepublicanFWIW, at least Cruz is a Trek fan - he's engaging in wishful thinking, but Shatner's opinion isn't worth as much as that.Star Trek was incredibly political in the Swiftian mode, but I wouldn't expect either gentleman to know that.
William Shatner responds after Ted Cruz says Captain Kirk was likely a Republican
QuoteStar Trek was incredibly political in the Swiftian mode, but I wouldn't expect either gentleman to know that.It reminds me of Galaxy Quest when the one guy turns to them and says "didn't any of you actually watch the show?"