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Community => Recreation Commons => Topic started by: Rusty Edge on June 10, 2023, 05:44:14 pm

Title: Artificial Intelligence
Post by: Rusty Edge on June 10, 2023, 05:44:14 pm

As you may recall, I think SKYNET is scarey, and don't really like the idea of AI being given much autonomy over something powerful, or being connected to the internet when it is given authority over something powerful.

I hear Elon Musk and others complaining about the dangers of A.I, but think most of the time the danger is his self driving cars or rockets screwing up, not because they might go rogue. Anyway, I was reading a NY Times article to get a different opinion and was horrified by this article https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/10/technology/ai-humanity.html?unlocked_article_code=g8tzIOqlSdq4MsYnWh33QNXLjBP1AWRE3nn2VmFToIS8_ZExZucfbX0rMeP-HqAYyM3FAAy7KjSGZ3nfc_-BZF2BxgehlZb38nUsQSnXM_cX5hSpM1KCG2nZxsIH54uaF5oYNfb_RNzDHqTizWQBZo1FTH_QACtkRxVdGuV6m-A0rqlt-tzaR-Y8LCJCrxsYh8DbJb45QMS-qCFEQD9MdmXgixznve3vsqEfBliviywY335_eJZIRk5UfN38lkw7rBGkO_GAed0SkDfijxacro7FO3__iRI-A9mpUmeiIINrGrTMisYDDTj6S0khoEduIqDCw3Uq8fOW&smid=url-share-

How Could AI Destroy Humanity

[Because they learn from more data than even their creators can understand, these systems also exhibit unexpected behavior. Researchers recently showed that one system was able to hire a human online to defeat a Captcha test. When the human asked if it was “a robot,” the system lied and said it was a person with a visual impairment.

Some experts worry that as researchers make these systems more powerful, training them on ever larger amounts of data, they could learn more bad habits.

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I wasn't expecting AIs to lie.   Imagine the cons they could work by cloning someone's voice and images from their social media.

Title: Re: Artificial Intelligence
Post by: Geo on June 10, 2023, 08:30:39 pm

Quote from: Rusty Edge on June 10, 2023, 05:44:14 pm

I wasn't expecting AIs to lie.   Imagine the cons they could work by cloning someone's voice and images from their social media.

One neural net (your lying AI) doesn't represent the behaviour of ALL neural nets (the whole of your AI-kind).

Title: Re: Artificial Intelligence
Post by: Unorthodox on June 13, 2023, 02:06:41 pm

A friend of mine had AI write a fake religion for a world building project they were working on. 

It was indeed scary how 'good' it sounded, as in I could see people actively BELIEVING an AI generated religious document easily.  This project had just a hint of uncanny valley effect included to where it was JUST off, but that was the POINT, being horror related.    I have little doubt we will get some AI cult religions rather swiftly. 

Title: Re: Artificial Intelligence
Post by: bvanevery on October 22, 2023, 07:26:09 pm

What does an AI cult do, sacrifice 1s and 0s ?

Title: Re: Artificial Intelligence
Post by: Metaliturtle on July 27, 2025, 08:55:27 pm

(https://preview.redd.it/am-i-look-cutie-yay-or-nay-v0-5ikfv4js0hff1.png?width=1080&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=28e9039568b6c9497e7b9991c79bd936f5b20d8f)

AI is doing some interesting things nowadays...

Title: Re: Artificial Intelligence
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 27, 2025, 09:02:10 pm

That's a little too revealing - but the first thing I thought was "I'll say."

Title: Re: Artificial Intelligence
Post by: Metaliturtle on July 27, 2025, 09:06:00 pm

Quote from: Buster's Uncle on July 27, 2025, 09:02:10 pm

That's a little too revealing - but the first thing I thought was "I'll say."

We've got it integrated into so much at work with copilot, it can be a time saver with tedious tasks or things that I don't know where to even start, but my favorite part is the AI art.

Title: Re: Artificial Intelligence
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 27, 2025, 09:09:07 pm

Please don't get more revealing is all.

Title: Re: Artificial Intelligence
Post by: Metaliturtle on July 27, 2025, 09:12:35 pm

(https://preview.redd.it/green-brown-or-black-v0-8ad078vrdm9f1.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=617f59b3c87f873eb6e3772f03b85763de8e8569)
AI

(https://preview.redd.it/green-brown-or-black-v0-crkam7vrdm9f1.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=6c454bd660dd3a8ef2def3821f344c82ae6b5678)
AI

(https://preview.redd.it/green-brown-or-black-v0-etqn49vrdm9f1.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=07c8488d99886f98b810d5ff61e7124a52d83bd9)
AI

If this existed when I was 13 I would be living alone right now.

Title: Re: Artificial Intelligence
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 27, 2025, 09:15:21 pm

;lol

Title: Re: Artificial Intelligence
Post by: Metaliturtle on July 27, 2025, 11:46:40 pm

I'm not kidding, interacting with AI that generates these kinds of pictures with a strong LLM behind it... well, it's hard to deal with people when you can get virtually any validation you could ever want from whomever you want with a few keystrokes and prompt trial and error.

Title: Re: Artificial Intelligence
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 27, 2025, 11:48:26 pm

I'm not kidding either, that I don't doubt that for a second.

This is actually better than a spampage, you know - if not as funny...

Title: Re: Artificial Intelligence
Post by: Metaliturtle on July 28, 2025, 12:00:47 am

Interesting topics should be pursued like this, not everything needs a joke, in my mind it's scary how in 2-3 years AI has integrated into so many things and people don't realize they're playing with a disadvantage now.

Title: Re: Artificial Intelligence
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 28, 2025, 12:05:06 am

No, I'm seriously proud of how this crowd can kick around life the universe and everything with wit and style and dept- and the new sober grownup Gamera is a delight and fits right in. ;nod

Title: Re: Artificial Intelligence
Post by: Metaliturtle on July 28, 2025, 12:09:47 am

Quote from: Buster's Uncle on July 28, 2025, 12:05:06 am

No, I'm seriously proud of how this crowd can kick around life the universe and everything with wit and style and dept- and the new sober grownup Gamera is a delight and fits right in. ;nod

I always did man, I grew up on forums like this.  The dwellers are my people.

Title: Re: Artificial Intelligence
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 28, 2025, 12:14:41 am

Well, I liked you plenty when you were drunk and immature...

Title: Re: Artificial Intelligence
Post by: Metaliturtle on July 28, 2025, 12:44:20 am

Quote from: Buster's Uncle on July 28, 2025, 12:14:41 am

Well, I liked you plenty when you were drunk and immature...

Lots of people did... including women I wasn't married to, I put a stop to that real quick.

Title: Re: Artificial Intelligence
Post by: Lorizael on July 28, 2025, 03:47:24 am

Quote from: Metaliturtle on July 27, 2025, 11:46:40 pm

I'm not kidding, interacting with AI that generates these kinds of pictures with a strong LLM behind it... well, it's hard to deal with people when you can get virtually any validation you could ever want from whomever you want with a few keystrokes and prompt trial and error.

I'm very worried there's a good chance I could turn into Reginald Barclay.

Title: Re: Artificial Intelligence
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 28, 2025, 03:50:23 am

Surely he got to meet the godlike aliens who manipulated him - they might have been techno-blob for all we know...

Title: Re: Artificial Intelligence
Post by: Metaliturtle on July 28, 2025, 03:57:22 am

Quote from: Lorizael on July 28, 2025, 03:47:24 am

Quote from: Metaliturtle on July 27, 2025, 11:46:40 pm

I'm not kidding, interacting with AI that generates these kinds of pictures with a strong LLM behind it... well, it's hard to deal with people when you can get virtually any validation you could ever want from whomever you want with a few keystrokes and prompt trial and error.

I'm very worried there's a good chance I could turn into Reginald Barclay.

I don't know who that is and at this point I'm too afraid to ask a human... so I'll ask chatgpt.

Title: Re: Artificial Intelligence
Post by: Lorizael on July 28, 2025, 02:15:47 pm

The only Starfleet character in history who uses the holodeck the way you'd expect everyone would actually use the holodeck.

Title: Re: Artificial Intelligence
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 28, 2025, 02:34:06 pm

;lol

And what ends up happening to him in that episode IS pretty techno-blob...